tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28525168.post9046925952131816318..comments2024-01-01T21:31:27.654-08:00Comments on UNCLE EDDIE'S THEORY CORNER: KETMAN DOMINATES ANIMATION?Eddie Fitzgeraldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07729949238666234774noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28525168.post-26896929243706172222011-01-09T20:32:02.748-08:002011-01-09T20:32:02.748-08:00Thank you, Uncle Eddie. Well played.
The endless ...Thank you, Uncle Eddie. Well played.<br /><br />The endless liturgy of self-qualifying and assurances of utter faith and egalitarianism wearies a soul.<br /><br />Say what you say politely and well, and let the teeth and pink slips fall where they may!The Aardvarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11425052822588090155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28525168.post-85416483167714386202008-07-22T11:26:00.000-07:002008-07-22T11:26:00.000-07:00Thanks Eddie!Thanks Eddie!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28525168.post-17275725048168273192008-07-21T13:31:00.000-07:002008-07-21T13:31:00.000-07:00Anon: The elan and zest of a society...just anothe...Anon: The elan and zest of a society...just another way of describing the level of energy, vigor and spiritual uplift that a society posesses.Eddie Fitzgeraldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07729949238666234774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28525168.post-6621719993275524192008-07-21T10:29:00.000-07:002008-07-21T10:29:00.000-07:00why did everyone ignore my question? is it really ...why did everyone ignore my question? is it really that retarded? i dont know what does he mean by elan and zest and how do you cripple such a thing, i dont know what elan and zest are...can someone answer?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28525168.post-56928997980853123822008-07-20T21:38:00.000-07:002008-07-20T21:38:00.000-07:00To the last anon: He said they started laughing a...To the last anon: He said they started laughing after he said hi. <BR/><BR/>It reminds me of when I was in high school. I remember saying hi to this cheerleader and she busts out laughing. There was nobody else around so I assumed she was laughing at me. Did I ask her why? No, I was mortified and walked away. It's not like I had a strong self image or was in any way secure at the time. I was a typical insecure teengager and it hurt me to the core. Did she care? Nope. Did I get over it? I forgive but I can't forget it.<BR/><BR/>Why are people rude to others for no reason?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28525168.post-24904749943969708792008-07-20T13:01:00.000-07:002008-07-20T13:01:00.000-07:00Last Anonymous: sometimes if a total stranger com...Last Anonymous: sometimes if a total stranger comes up to you and butts into your conversation with your friends asking a pointed question like "what are you laughing about?" it's perceived as <B>intrusive</B>. I'm sorry if she hurt your feelings but I think her responses were not out of line. <BR/>She obviously didn't want to encourage your attention and rebuffed you-she could have simply turned her back but at least she bothered to answer your questions. I really think to pronounce that her behaviour shows "who she really is" in any prfound way is ridiculous. Maybe it shows what <I>you're</I> really like-to others. You didn't take her hint, and imho you rather than her came off sounding like a bit of a dick. Well, you win some/you lose some.<BR/><BR/>It's a huge stretch to extrapolate all that philosophising from such a trivial encounter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28525168.post-7539047840448013382008-07-20T12:34:00.000-07:002008-07-20T12:34:00.000-07:00Anon: "I'm too tired to be nice?" What a thing to ...Anon: "I'm too tired to be nice?" What a thing to say!Eddie Fitzgeraldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07729949238666234774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28525168.post-37043376487941626722008-07-20T12:10:00.000-07:002008-07-20T12:10:00.000-07:00I was a-talkin' to a girl last night.I went up to ...I was a-talkin' to a girl last night.<BR/><BR/>I went up to her and said hi. Her and her friends started laughing. When I asked what she was laughing at she said she didn't feel like being social. I said, "Good. I don't want you to be social. I want you to be real." To which she retorted: "I'm too tired to be nice."<BR/><BR/>Me being me, I said, "If it takes effort to be social and nice, what does that say about who you really are?"<BR/><BR/>I'm not interested in people being social. I'm interested in people being real.<BR/><BR/>And I think abstraction is a way of socializing - of doing what everyone else is doing - a way of "belonging".<BR/><BR/>I'd say its easier to do what everyone else is doing, but seeing how exhausted it leaves most people to put on that social mask, I think the only thing easier about it is the lack of the burden of possible isolation.<BR/><BR/>They are scared of being hated and alone.<BR/><BR/>But if someone isn't willing to put their true selves out there, they will not find true love.<BR/><BR/>And this is why I think animation today lacks that spark and uniqueness that stirs people. Because to be hated by some means to be loved by some. Blandness means being not loved, but it also means being not hated.<BR/><BR/>And I think most people would rather be not hated than loved. Most people play it safe. Even animators.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28525168.post-90039483988987982212008-07-19T18:45:00.000-07:002008-07-19T18:45:00.000-07:00Anon: Yes Flash, up to a point, but retro design w...Anon: Yes Flash, up to a point, but retro design was already the next new thing, even when Flash was just getting started. And remember, UPA preceded Flash. <BR/><BR/>Most of the art done in the world til recent times was stylized and didn't attempt to portray too many real emotions. The Greeks and Romans influenced Europe to like it but even there the cold, flat folk art style persisted. I like flat, I just don't want to see it drive out everything else.Eddie Fitzgeraldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07729949238666234774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28525168.post-83536665746797875042008-07-19T18:16:00.000-07:002008-07-19T18:16:00.000-07:00As much as I would like to support the rotting fro...As much as I would like to support the rotting from within Art Philosophy bias for design heavy animation. I think I'd rather use Ockhams Razor on this one.<BR/><BR/>Its because of Flash. Just like you said.<BR/><BR/>Also, The Kids love a repeatable design. They can repeat it. It is easy for a buddingpreschool age artist to get a handle on the Power Puff Girls or Dexter.<BR/><BR/>Less Drawings mean more profits, on the production side. Give the designs a mouth chart and ship them to Korea.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28525168.post-33616447780707393342008-07-19T06:06:00.000-07:002008-07-19T06:06:00.000-07:00Why would it be a surprise that a conservative rig...<I>Why would it be a surprise that a conservative right winger like O'Reilly was upset over something that ridiculed the right's distorted beliefs about Obama?</I><BR/><BR/>That's NOT what he was "upset" by at all. Not by a long shot. He read all the talking points ahead of time to find out what the majority of people were saying, then made his display on Fox. He said basically the same thing Obama and McCain's camp did...right along with everyone else in media (everyone I've seen or heard anyway).5https://www.blogger.com/profile/13591187057747091197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28525168.post-73379445258897726242008-07-19T05:50:00.000-07:002008-07-19T05:50:00.000-07:00Hunsecker, I used O'Reilly as a point of reference...Hunsecker, I used O'Reilly as a point of reference to show that <B>EVEN RIGHT WING</B> media was too "PC whipped" to say there was nothing wrong with that provocative caricature. <BR/><BR/>It's really funny actually. Left wingers make caricatures and stuffed animals and then fellow left wingers get upset over them. And the right wing media is too PC whipped to say it's ridiculous.5https://www.blogger.com/profile/13591187057747091197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28525168.post-47105543864781681652008-07-19T02:10:00.000-07:002008-07-19T02:10:00.000-07:00No, I'm not misrepresenting anything, Hunsecker. I...<I>No, I'm not misrepresenting anything, Hunsecker. I said the New Yorker caricature was the only provocative one of BHO I've seen this year and it is. I'm very well aware of what NYer said about the art. I'm also aware of the reactions to it.</I><BR/><BR/>What you originally wrote certainly left one with the impression that you did indeed misinterpret the New Yorker cover. If you knew that the New Yorker was satirizing the right's attempt to smear Obama why would you mention that Bill O'Reilly objected to it? Why would it be a surprise that a conservative right winger like O'Reilly was upset over something that ridiculed the right's distorted beliefs about Obama? You would only mention O'Reilly if you thought that the New Yorker caricature of Obama was somehow mocking Obama himself. Therefore your example that even conservative O'Reilly condemned the only provocative joke aimed at Obama would prove what a "sacred cow" Obama supposedly was to the press.J. J. Hunseckerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04067327948394872768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28525168.post-26467154008997446682008-07-18T15:38:00.000-07:002008-07-18T15:38:00.000-07:00We don't hear honest emotions on television, ever,...We don't hear honest emotions on television, ever, unless they're watered-down cliches of thoughts that have been stated and re-stated time and again. <BR/><BR/>These are your "Men never ask for directions" and "Isn't airline food the worst" emotions.<BR/><BR/>I don't need a lengthy letter to make this point, because I believe this to be true: you will never EVER hear an honest emotion from someone on television unless it's documentary footage of someone in another country suffering a tragedy that happened years ago.<BR/><BR/>And since television shapes our culture ( and it DOES, whether we like it or not ), and the media companies are slowly being bought out by larger media companies until it'll only be two or one, I think we can expect to have our thoughts controlled by the end of the next decade.<BR/><BR/>People have in them an inner voice that reacts realistically to things, and if that voice, or that honest emotion isn't confirmed or they don't hear it shared with someone else they begin to think they're insane. And if you want people to think a certain way, the best way to do it is to silence or alienate anyone who thinks otherwise.<BR/><BR/>This is the sole reason political correctness exists and why it is pure evil.<BR/><BR/>By the way, Eddie... don't feel bad about posting this. This stuff needs to be talked about, and thank you for giving us the opportunity to do so.<BR/><BR/>- trevor.<BR/><BR/>PS: I don't vote, but if you ran for president, I would. Good call, Vincent. Good call. Uncle Eddie in '09!Trevor Thompsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08554109671909765241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28525168.post-14083365465282231042008-07-18T11:45:00.001-07:002008-07-18T11:45:00.001-07:00I love the PowerPuff girls! I remember one episode...I love the PowerPuff girls! I remember one episode featuring one of their regular villains, Satan. He had defeated the girls & then in a surprise switch, he showered all the kids with candy. His henchman was puzzled, but Satan explained, "Why simply destroy them when I can torture them with tooth decay?" Isn't that just like him?<BR/><BR/>The English language has needed a word like "ketman" for a thousand years. <BR/><BR/>I don't think ketman has to do with any specific political philosophy. It's dominance & submission. The catastrophic consequences of speaking truth to power could be the gulag, a right wing death squad, losing your job or just hurting the feelings of a "PC thug".<BR/><BR/>Ketman is why (in Orwell's phrase) Ignorance is Strength. Most people today would prefer to live in willful ignorance & avoid the moral & psychic pain of ketman. It's more adaptive biologically for me, as an individual, to draw strength from my beliefs & I suspect that's that's the value & wisdom of revealed truth as opposed to reasoned truth. The benefits of reason tend to serve civilisation collectively, (e.g. science or philosophy). Reason is like an escalator. Once you make a commitment to ride, it's difficult to get off, even if it takes you where you didn't want to go. At times like that, you have to remind yourself that you're on an adventure.<BR/><BR/>There's something to lester hunt's idea about non-content. <BR/><BR/>Content is nothing but trouble for cartoon executives. Not only politically but (assuming they're not in business to amuse your children) financially. Creating content is the biggest money-losing part of the animation business, in much the same way that denial of your claim is considered a "profit center" by insurance companies. <BR/><BR/>Milosz has a subcategory of ketman called "aesthetic ketman". it's based on the observation that it's important to tyrants to be seen to foster culture. <BR/><BR/>"How can one still the thought that aesthetic experiences arise out<BR/> of something organic, and that the union of color and harmony with<BR/> fear is as difficult to imagine as brilliant plumage on birds living<BR/> in the northern tundras?"pappy dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07634780939188002027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28525168.post-91777270121296190202008-07-18T07:28:00.000-07:002008-07-18T07:28:00.000-07:00And the Obama monkey was made by a Obama supporter...<I>And the Obama monkey was made by a Obama supporter as a promotion.</I><BR/><BR/>This is the perfect example of whistle blowers revealing THEIR own inherent racism. Obama has big ears that stick out and a round face that's why he resembles Curious George not because he's black everyone knows this, but it was an opportunity for career advancement.<BR/><BR/>Ambulance chasing self promoters like Jesse Jackson and every television pundit needs to justify their existence somehow, so completely frivolous situations like that somehow become national news. It's pathetic.<BR/><BR/>And what 7 year old kid wants to be a political pundit or an 'activist' when they grow up? All of those people in the media who ranted about that are personal failures. They probably couldn't finish their math requirement in college so they could actually do something useful with their lives.Adam Tavareshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15862869332388893138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28525168.post-60701867541594892512008-07-18T01:48:00.000-07:002008-07-18T01:48:00.000-07:00cartoon acting is nonexistent because most people ...cartoon acting is nonexistent because most people don't know how to ANIMATE anymore. and when you ANIMATE you breath life into characters. illustrations tell stories. designs are graphics, but neither do what animating does. when you animate you are forced to have a reason or purpose behind actions etc. <BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>so now we are in an industry where a bunch of people don't know how to animate. will pull and blatantly steal from what already exist. use stock poses and expressions and pretend like they are making the characters "act" but they don't push it far enough. They don't explore it. So its just boring boring boring.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>plus the way cartoons are made today there is not enough space or any time to let characters acting take place. everything is super snappy and fast and annoying voice actors screaming in your face.<BR/><BR/><BR/>oh well. I will try to bring back acting in my own personal cartoons<BR/><BR/>but you are right. most people don't care. and they don't have any personality or are too afraid to bring it to the table.davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15116038847004705651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28525168.post-46768202870834532052008-07-17T23:58:00.000-07:002008-07-17T23:58:00.000-07:00By the way, Eddie, that "Mount Everest" of letters...By the way, Eddie, that "Mount Everest" of letters was great. I agreed with most of it, but I suspect it to be copypasta.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28525168.post-31799283544625583882008-07-17T23:56:00.000-07:002008-07-17T23:56:00.000-07:00"I don't think anyone over nine years old should b..."I don't think anyone over nine years old should be watching the Powerpuff Girls..."<BR/><BR/>That's because you're a fucking idiot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28525168.post-90495512220626156742008-07-17T21:51:00.000-07:002008-07-17T21:51:00.000-07:00I don't think anyone over nine years old should be...I don't think anyone over nine years old should be watching the Powerpuff Girls...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28525168.post-69885762444518516002008-07-17T20:15:00.000-07:002008-07-17T20:15:00.000-07:00No, I'm not misrepresenting anything, Hunsecker. ...No, I'm not misrepresenting anything, Hunsecker. I said the New Yorker caricature was the only provocative one of BHO I've seen this year and it is. I'm very well aware of what NYer said about the art. I'm also aware of the reactions to it.<BR/><BR/><I>From politico.com (you can find similar articles all across the internet if you just use your favorite search engine):<BR/><BR/>Barack Obama's campaign is condemning as 'tasteless and offensive' a New Yorker magazine cover that depicts Obama in a turban, fist-bumping his gun-slinging wife. <BR/><BR/>An American flag burns in their fireplace. <BR/><BR/>The New Yorker says it's satire. It certainly will be candy for cable news. <BR/><BR/>The Obama campaign quickly condemned the rendering. Spokesman Bill Burton said in a statement: 'The New Yorker may think, as one of their staff explained to us, that their cover is a satirical lampoon of the caricature Sen. Obama's right-wing critics have tried to create. But most readers will see it as tasteless and offensive. And we agree.' <BR/><BR/>McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds quickly e-mailed: 'We completely agree with the Obama campaign, it’s tasteless and offensive.'"</I><BR/><BR/>And the Obama monkey was made by a Obama supporter as a <B>promotion</B>.5https://www.blogger.com/profile/13591187057747091197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28525168.post-68444379452103532152008-07-17T13:42:00.000-07:002008-07-17T13:42:00.000-07:00What do you mean by elan and zest?What do you mean by elan and zest?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28525168.post-37526730516311257852008-07-17T12:40:00.000-07:002008-07-17T12:40:00.000-07:00"Cold but beautiful graphics have been gaining mom...<I>"Cold but beautiful graphics have been gaining momentum ever since Picasso and are not a creation of the political correctness movement...not the modern version of it anyway. I don't think my ketman idea is sufficient to explain why artists prefer abstracted graphics, but it may be a contributing factor. "</I><BR/><BR/>I think part of the problem is that most artists feel that the flat graphic style suits limited animation better than dimensional drawing. Sometimes they're right. "The Powerpuff Girls" looks better on TV than the attempts at the classic Disney style in shows like "Tale Spin" or "Rescue Rangers." It's all the imitators of Craig McKracken's flat style that are really bad, like "Fairly Odd Parents."<BR/><BR/>Maybe since most artists in the animation business don't, and usually can't, animate (and there really aren't many opportunities to be an animator in the U.S.), they pour their energies in the one area where they can make an impact -- on design. Too many modern animation artists idolize, and are influenced by, Mary Blair, UPA and other 50's stylized cartoons like <I>Toot, Whistle, Plunk and Boom.</I> (Which I also enjoy.) Maybe if they did animate they would prefer to make cartoons like Clampett's?J. J. Hunseckerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04067327948394872768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28525168.post-25894900331957573082008-07-17T12:29:00.000-07:002008-07-17T12:29:00.000-07:00So to bring things back to why character animation...So to bring things back to why character animation isn't as common today goes to these innocent specific instances are being seen as a general message.<BR/><BR/>So a cartoon rabbit can't pinch anyone's ass and say 'Hiya toots!', anymore, because that is no longer seen as a specific character in a specific situation that's an endorsement of sexism by the animation studio.<BR/><BR/>Who wants to deal with the inevitable lawsuits that'll come pouring in by organizations with acronyms for names. It's safer to get your artistic jollies in design.Adam Tavareshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15862869332388893138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28525168.post-6266470894596949912008-07-17T12:20:00.000-07:002008-07-17T12:20:00.000-07:00It's aggravating when people try to take a moral h...It's aggravating when people try to take a moral high ground and perpetuate this junk, ketman and politcal correctness or whatever you want to call it.<BR/><BR/>These uppity power hungry types are trying to rewrite human behavior from the top down and it simply won't work. How could it? They're battling millions of years of evolution. Self denial just isn't effective. It causes more problems than it solves.<BR/><BR/>I think people should just find a way to workout the less desirable impulses safely but they'll have to acknowledge that they're there first. Otherwise they'll come out in some violent burst ( think Michael Richards ).<BR/><BR/>And another problem ketman and political correctness causes is seeing specific isolated situations as part of some larger problem. <BR/><BR/>I've been called a racist because I've done impersonations of specific people I know who happen to be black and japanese. I've had to argue with strangers that I wasn't 'perpetuating ethnic stereotypes' I was simply goofing on my friends.Adam Tavareshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15862869332388893138noreply@blogger.com