Unbelievable! Is this really a picture of Bugs Bunny displaying all his male assets? When a friend showed this to me I nearly dropped to the floor.
Actually, it's not what it seems. The offending object is simply the air space between Bugs' legs, and the color is the way it is because it's the color of the tub in the background showing through the empty space. Even so, it sure looks like......
Thanks to Milkandcookies.com for the post this is based on, to lyzard and psyjax who commented on that site and explained what was really going on, and to Christina who turned me on to all this.
Hah, just a month ago I went through exactly the same thing! A friend showed it to me, but the comments explained what was happening.
ReplyDeleteOf all the years I've seen this cartoon, I never noticed it until it was pointed out.
ReplyDeleteAlthough there IS a nudity in another Friz Freleng cartoon, "Daffy the Commando". One of the posters hanging on the German officer's wall is a picture of a topless woman. No, really.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lNbXkSlZ4k
Pause to 1:22
Friz Freleng can be sneaky sometimes.
Are you a fan of Scott Mclouds writings on comics?
ReplyDeleteI was just discussing this with others. While it's obviously not Bugs's dick and just the tub behind him, Freleng and his crew sure as hell meant for it to look like he was flashing.
ReplyDeleteReg Hartt wore the hell out of his film print of this cartoon still framing it. It was/still is a centerpiece of his Sex & Violence cartoon screenings.
Never noticed that before! Maybe because I try to keep a clean mind while watching Looney Tunes.
ReplyDeleteThad,
ReplyDeleteThat's funny, I love this cartoon, but I don't remember seeing it at the S&V screening I saw. The only Warners he showed that night for some reason were "Gruesome Twosome", "Coal Black" and "The Big Snooze", which apparently used to be rarely seen with the pill-swallowing shot included. (Before child-safe lids.)
Oh man, I remember how "Ever-Ready Horton's Golden Treasure" brought the house down. One of the most memorable moments of my life.
Although there IS a nudity in another Friz Freleng cartoon, "Daffy the Commando". One of the posters hanging on the German officer's wall is a picture of a topless woman. No, really.
ReplyDeleteThere are some nude pictures in the background of quite a few of Freleng's cartoons. Besides The Wabbit Who Came to Supper, I've seen some in Curtain Razor, Slick Hare, Hare Do, and Bugs Bunny Rides Again. But, of course, the sneaky individual would be Paul Julian, Friz' background painter at the time.
At least he was a Nazi. It's not like they portrayed nude women in a positive light.
ReplyDeleteIt would be interesting to see how cartoons and would had evolved if the Hays Code never existed
ReplyDeleteHavr you seen this? The animators just made it as a joke for themselves, but it leaked to the internet.
ReplyDeleteI'd really like to see the gag reel they made for Walt's birthday with Minnie and Mickey fornicating.
ReplyDeleteIn fact, it was probably destroyed since Walt fired the two animators who did it on the spot.
- trevor.
"Nyyah, what's up doc? Not me - these carrots ain't doin' a thing for my libido!"
ReplyDelete"It would be interesting to see how cartoons and would had evolved if the Hays Code never existed"
ReplyDeleteOh, God. No, it wouldn't!
Plenty of cartoons went 'far enough' both pre- and post code. Try any Fleischer for the very best naughty stuff. Or Flip the Frog; Iwerks could get pretty crude.
As for outright porn, nothing's stopping anyone now. And there are whole book compilations of 'Tijuana bible' cartoon art from the 30 with famous characters.
If you want an idea of the kinds of cartoons Freleng, Jones, Clampett, and Tashlin would have made without the Hayes/Breen Code, take a look at the Private Snafu series. Lots of "hells", "damns", shit jokes, and tits, but it's all done cleverly, and tame compared to anything today. And honestly, they probably wouldn't have gone any further than that because they probably didn't think it was socially acceptable.
ReplyDelete"If you want an idea of the kinds of cartoons Freleng, Jones, Clampett, and Tashlin would have made without the Hayes/Breen Code, take a look at the Private Snafu series. Lots of "hells", "damns", shit jokes, and tits, but it's all done cleverly, and tame compared to anything today. And honestly, they probably wouldn't have gone any further than that because they probably didn't think it was socially acceptable."
ReplyDeleteGood points.
Of course the Snafus et al were made to satisfy quite another, equally oowerful overseer's "code"-the US Government's. They very specifically ordered that the cartoons contain "hells" and "damns" in the dialogue as they knew perfectly well they had to engage men of all sorts, and all of whom were going to war risking their lives--they wanted at all costs to avoid these guys tuning out the messages within the shorts: avoid/treat the clap, don't tell any women troop movements, be safety aware etc. etc. Adding rough language for Snafu and Hook made them more "relatable".
As for whether the cartoon directors would have gone farther than that on their own with no restraints,I seriously doubt it, with probably the odd exception.
Because above all they wanted to get gags across at WB, and they managed brilliantly within the code to get plenty of innuendo in them as it was. They also knew their theater audiences were GENERAL in the broadest sense of the word and there wouldn't have been much gained by swearing or a lot of more smutty stuff and losing half your audience of the 1940s-50s-women and kids (and even some men). They all wanted to make hit cartoons-a hit with as many people as possible.
As an example of something more niche and risque, the cartoons in the first years of Playboy look impossibly tame today, but were way beyond anything "mainstream" in the 50s.
Well Tashlin had the cumming milk bottle in THE GIRL CAN'T HELP IT, Avery basically had the wolf masturbate in bed in LITTLE RURAL RIDING HOOD, and Clampett's cartoons are almost endlessly obscene (oh god, NOT BASHING, NOT BASHING). So one can't ever know for sure.
ReplyDeleteThad, none of those examples you mention were what I'd call "obscene". That was my whole point!
ReplyDeleteAvery and Clampett and Tashlin "got away" with what they did because they could. Innuendo is having Jayne hold the milk bottles to her chest and seem to be unselfconscious when she says, wide-eyed "Do you think I'm equipped to be a mother?" or when the milkman's milk busts out. Everyone of a certain age knows what it "means", and it's plenty crass(and funny imho)--but it isn't the same thing as what we were musing about--outright OBSCENITY--i.e. NO MP Codes--showing an actual penis/erection(and like it or not, a ten gallon hat isn't an erection nor is a spurting milk bottle) or being much more direct instead of being, well, just ridiculously naughty. There's no question that the pre-code stuff went further than in 1934 onwards, but even pre-Code didn't go for a lot of out-and-out swearing or much more than silhouetted nudity, as in the great Busby Berkley films, and I don't believe Clampett or Tashlin would have either.
I think they wouldn't have gone further because when you do "go further" the gag isn't much of a gag anymore. There's nothing inherently funny about naked breasts or sexual matters, but what can be implied about them indirectly can be hysterical.
Another sort of example I've seen in both cartoons and live action of, say, the late 30s is when a (usually male) character will be incredibly angry/frustrated, and he'll silently mouth what are obviously meant to be really obscene rants: "you dirty SOB", but are shown utterly soundless. I think it's much funnier to see the character do that than to actually as we have now hear them say an outright "fuck you" or "you lousy son of a bitch!".
In fact I think the only times I've ever laughed at the use of swearing for its own sake was in Blazing Saddles and The Big Lebowski for different reasons. In most other comedies it just comes off as hard and crass.
There's my take on it, anyway. ; )
Oh, man, being TOLD to swear by your boss's boss's boss... truly THAT was a golden age.
ReplyDeleteI was exaggerating with "obscene". But they are still all dirty jokes. I think we are in agreement that "dirty" was cleverer back then than today. In the case of, say, some of Clampett's shorts or Tashlin's ejaculating milk bottle, they are not very clever but very sophomoric (but not unfunny). I see that the gremlin's nose is supposed to be a dick, so does everyone else. I don't think I'd put it past those guys, especially Clampett, to do something out and out obscene just for the sake of it if they could. I mean, Bob was the guy who went to a staff party as a giant member.
ReplyDeleteAnd hey, cartoon tits can't be funny? How about Mike's mom in HEAVY TRAFFIC?
Yes the infamous bunny boner.
ReplyDeleteThad:
ReplyDeleteDon't forget Daffy humping the water pump in SCRAP HAPPY DAFFY and it's release. XD
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